1 00:00:02,210 --> 00:00:08,980 [Music] 2 00:00:12,950 --> 00:00:11,089 awesome to be here thanks so much for 3 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:12,960 having us amazing place thank you so 4 00:00:16,310 --> 00:00:14,730 much thanks for coming let's talk about 5 00:00:19,029 --> 00:00:16,320 your relationship with Caitlyn how did 6 00:00:23,420 --> 00:00:19,039 you guys first meet Caitlyn and I met 7 00:00:26,330 --> 00:00:23,430 through we met about four years ago 8 00:00:28,849 --> 00:00:26,340 three years ago through our makeup 9 00:00:31,370 --> 00:00:28,859 artist and our hair stylist so this is 10 00:00:33,319 --> 00:00:31,380 pre-announcement at Pepperdine this was 11 00:00:36,229 --> 00:00:33,329 pre announcement at Pepperdine yes but 12 00:00:39,170 --> 00:00:36,239 at that point I had told family close 13 00:00:41,750 --> 00:00:39,180 friends okay mm-hm 14 00:00:43,670 --> 00:00:41,760 and had been transitioning at that point 15 00:00:47,209 --> 00:00:43,680 for a few incidentally you were sharing 16 00:00:49,670 --> 00:00:47,219 the same hairdresser yes okay and then 17 00:00:51,860 --> 00:00:49,680 the hairdresser introduced you yep and 18 00:00:55,430 --> 00:00:51,870 did you talk about transition at that 19 00:00:57,590 --> 00:00:55,440 time with Caitlyn the hairdresser I went 20 00:00:59,000 --> 00:00:57,600 to I told her what was going on I said 21 00:01:00,290 --> 00:00:59,010 you know I'm trying to grow my hair out 22 00:01:01,490 --> 00:01:00,300 and she's like why are you trying to 23 00:01:03,290 --> 00:01:01,500 grow your hair out and I explained to 24 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:03,300 her you know I'm transitioning and would 25 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:04,890 like to keep it going a little longer 26 00:01:11,289 --> 00:01:08,130 and she said oh my god you won't believe 27 00:01:14,510 --> 00:01:11,299 who is another client and I said who 28 00:01:15,950 --> 00:01:14,520 she's had Caitlyn Jenner and you know at 29 00:01:17,270 --> 00:01:15,960 the time I lived well I went to 30 00:01:20,899 --> 00:01:17,280 Pepperdine but I lived in Beverly Hills 31 00:01:22,940 --> 00:01:20,909 at that time and she introduced us and 32 00:01:25,219 --> 00:01:22,950 we kicked it off and developed a great 33 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:25,229 relationship so was she really 34 00:01:32,179 --> 00:01:28,530 instrumental in assisting you through 35 00:01:36,050 --> 00:01:32,189 the process no you know I well in some 36 00:01:37,910 --> 00:01:36,060 ways you know I've read reports that 37 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:37,920 Caitlyn paid for my sexual reassignment 38 00:01:44,660 --> 00:01:40,170 surgery or paid for gender affirming 39 00:01:47,990 --> 00:01:44,670 surgeries not true at all I you know she 40 00:01:51,170 --> 00:01:48,000 was there for me emotionally for sure 41 00:01:53,899 --> 00:01:51,180 she would call and check up on me but we 42 00:01:59,690 --> 00:01:53,909 weren't you know in a relationship or 43 00:02:02,719 --> 00:01:59,700 really close as we were after I 44 00:02:04,910 --> 00:02:02,729 completed my transition mm-hmm so and 45 00:02:09,260 --> 00:02:04,920 when did it become a romantic 46 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:09,270 relationship I you know I wouldn't 47 00:02:13,100 --> 00:02:11,250 describe it as a romantic relationship 48 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:13,110 I would describe our relationship as 49 00:02:17,839 --> 00:02:16,050 we're partners you know we're business 50 00:02:22,010 --> 00:02:17,849 partners I'm the executive director of 51 00:02:24,830 --> 00:02:22,020 her foundation you know we have so much 52 00:02:28,790 --> 00:02:24,840 in common we see the world so similarly 53 00:02:30,470 --> 00:02:28,800 and we both are such a good match for 54 00:02:30,860 --> 00:02:30,480 each other because we challenge each 55 00:02:34,369 --> 00:02:30,870 other 56 00:02:36,890 --> 00:02:34,379 she challenges me in so many ways has 57 00:02:39,890 --> 00:02:36,900 allowed me to grow in so many ways and I 58 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:39,900 hope you know I challenge her to grow 59 00:02:45,740 --> 00:02:42,810 and I think because we share so many of 60 00:02:47,270 --> 00:02:45,750 the same passions and views you know 61 00:02:50,150 --> 00:02:47,280 it's just a great match a great 62 00:02:51,530 --> 00:02:50,160 partnership we are living together we do 63 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:51,540 live together yes okay 64 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:54,450 so you know I'd be you know just to kind 65 00:02:57,290 --> 00:02:56,010 of the elephant in the room a lot of 66 00:02:59,119 --> 00:02:57,300 people are wondering you know is this 67 00:03:00,170 --> 00:02:59,129 romantic or is it not I think it's kind 68 00:03:01,759 --> 00:03:00,180 of important just to kind of put that 69 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:01,769 issue to bed grab who think I don't 70 00:03:05,690 --> 00:03:03,810 think it's that important no no I think 71 00:03:11,690 --> 00:03:05,700 it's unfortunate that the media has 72 00:03:13,220 --> 00:03:11,700 fixated on too is it romantic or is it 73 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:13,230 not you know I don't think we need to 74 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:15,690 talk about is it romantic or not we're 75 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:17,370 partners and everything we do we're 76 00:03:20,690 --> 00:03:18,330 inseparable 77 00:03:23,089 --> 00:03:20,700 we're business partners we live together 78 00:03:26,839 --> 00:03:23,099 we share a dog we share family we share 79 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:26,849 a life together but as far as caving in 80 00:03:31,369 --> 00:03:29,730 to the media and having one of us label 81 00:03:34,039 --> 00:03:31,379 it as something we're not going to do 82 00:03:36,470 --> 00:03:34,049 that well one of the things that perhaps 83 00:03:38,839 --> 00:03:36,480 are just distracting from the trans 84 00:03:42,619 --> 00:03:38,849 issues that you guys want to advocate 85 00:03:43,910 --> 00:03:42,629 for is this what do they call it 86 00:03:46,130 --> 00:03:43,920 November to say what are they called 87 00:03:50,149 --> 00:03:46,140 when the relationship is anyway the age 88 00:03:51,770 --> 00:03:50,159 difference 68 and 22 how do you feel 89 00:03:55,190 --> 00:03:51,780 about you know there's a lot of focus on 90 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:55,200 that how do you explain how a 68 year 91 00:03:58,750 --> 00:03:56,970 old and 22 year old could have such an 92 00:04:01,429 --> 00:03:58,760 intimate relationship as you guys have 93 00:04:03,259 --> 00:04:01,439 well it's unfortunate again that the 94 00:04:05,530 --> 00:04:03,269 media is so fixated on these 95 00:04:09,729 --> 00:04:05,540 sensationalized stories 96 00:04:13,910 --> 00:04:09,739 everything has to be a big sensation and 97 00:04:18,129 --> 00:04:13,920 you know I don't see age as a factor in 98 00:04:19,930 --> 00:04:18,139 our relationship I see we are two souls 99 00:04:23,890 --> 00:04:19,940 that 100 00:04:25,630 --> 00:04:23,900 a fantastic match for one another and I 101 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:25,640 feel that we're so blessed to have found 102 00:04:30,010 --> 00:04:28,250 each other and to be so supportive of 103 00:04:33,630 --> 00:04:30,020 one another and everything that we do 104 00:04:35,860 --> 00:04:33,640 and you know I feel beyond blessed that 105 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:35,870 you know we've been able to keep it 106 00:04:39,550 --> 00:04:38,090 going for the time we've been able to 107 00:04:42,190 --> 00:04:39,560 keep it going I don't think of the age 108 00:04:44,650 --> 00:04:42,200 differences anything Caitlyn has more 109 00:04:46,570 --> 00:04:44,660 energy than me most days Caitlyn's out 110 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:46,580 playing 18 holes of golf and I'm like oh 111 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:49,250 my god I'm exhausted I just want to go 112 00:04:54,550 --> 00:04:52,130 chill you know yeah well I'm 19 years 113 00:04:56,110 --> 00:04:54,560 older than my fiancee and I get the same 114 00:04:58,150 --> 00:04:56,120 thing I tend to have more energy in her 115 00:05:00,010 --> 00:04:58,160 but not quite the difference of you guys 116 00:05:01,630 --> 00:05:00,020 I did try to do some research and I 117 00:05:03,820 --> 00:05:01,640 found Hugh Hefner was the only one I 118 00:05:08,380 --> 00:05:03,830 could identify with a bigger age cap 119 00:05:10,090 --> 00:05:08,390 than you two so pH gap is there but we 120 00:05:12,220 --> 00:05:10,100 don't feel that it's there I think the 121 00:05:15,130 --> 00:05:12,230 media feels that it's there because it 122 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:15,140 is sensationalized it's it's it sells 123 00:05:21,580 --> 00:05:18,010 papers it sells articles it sells clicks 124 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:21,590 but for us it's not even a factor and 125 00:05:26,980 --> 00:05:23,930 what you know we talked about sexual 126 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:26,990 orientation so if you're a trans woman 127 00:05:31,510 --> 00:05:29,330 with a trans woman does that mean trans 128 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:31,520 lesbian is that the right terminology 129 00:05:36,909 --> 00:05:33,890 Porter you know I wouldn't even go down 130 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:36,919 that road I think that my sexual 131 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:40,130 orientation is not something that I need 132 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:45,530 to discuss I think you know I am I 133 00:05:52,030 --> 00:05:47,690 choose to be with someone based on the 134 00:05:54,580 --> 00:05:52,040 person and the person happens to be a 135 00:05:56,380 --> 00:05:54,590 trans woman and I think that's great 136 00:05:58,810 --> 00:05:56,390 had you ever dated a transgendered 137 00:06:00,670 --> 00:05:58,820 person before I would not say we're 138 00:06:04,180 --> 00:06:00,680 dating first of all I would back up I 139 00:06:05,650 --> 00:06:04,190 would say we are partners I would not 140 00:06:10,300 --> 00:06:05,660 use the word girlfriend I would not use 141 00:06:12,550 --> 00:06:10,310 the word dating we're partners and no I 142 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:12,560 had never been with anyone that was not 143 00:06:17,350 --> 00:06:13,690 a male 144 00:06:19,930 --> 00:06:17,360 so there's haters out there on the 145 00:06:21,550 --> 00:06:19,940 Internet yes let's go through just a 146 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:21,560 couple of them I just helped you set the 147 00:06:24,550 --> 00:06:23,090 record straight I mean the obvious one 148 00:06:27,420 --> 00:06:24,560 is this is all for publicity 149 00:06:30,660 --> 00:06:27,430 this isn't this relationship isn't real 150 00:06:33,060 --> 00:06:30,670 not going to respond 151 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:33,070 this was one that I find hopefully 152 00:06:36,750 --> 00:06:34,210 you'll get a chuckle out of this one but 153 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:36,760 they say that yes Sophia transition she 154 00:06:43,710 --> 00:06:41,770 transitioned to being our Kardashian my 155 00:06:45,270 --> 00:06:43,720 goodness well I think they mean that in 156 00:06:48,510 --> 00:06:45,280 the sense that you know now you are an 157 00:06:50,070 --> 00:06:48,520 Instagram and you are beautiful and and 158 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:50,080 out there and I know they're saying your 159 00:06:52,980 --> 00:06:51,610 model perhaps you're not modeling but 160 00:06:55,740 --> 00:06:52,990 there appear to be modeling pictures and 161 00:06:58,380 --> 00:06:55,750 so on and suddenly you're in this that 162 00:07:00,300 --> 00:06:58,390 type of world do you feel like you're in 163 00:07:03,840 --> 00:07:00,310 that type of world now no I'm a 164 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:03,850 businesswoman because I am pretty and I 165 00:07:08,430 --> 00:07:05,410 post a pretty picture on Instagram 166 00:07:10,950 --> 00:07:08,440 suddenly I'm a model and you know hats 167 00:07:14,370 --> 00:07:10,960 off to the Kardashians and Jenner's they 168 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:14,380 have channeled the ultimate power a 169 00:07:22,490 --> 00:07:18,010 woman could channel you know they are 170 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:22,500 all smart business women they are all 171 00:07:27,690 --> 00:07:25,090 extremely hard workers and I look up to 172 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:27,700 all of them and I think you know being 173 00:07:32,610 --> 00:07:30,130 raised by Bruce and being raised by Kris 174 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:32,620 really influenced them and I couldn't be 175 00:07:36,180 --> 00:07:34,570 prouder of all of them more proud of all 176 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:36,190 of them and do you have a relationship 177 00:07:42,420 --> 00:07:38,410 with his children and in grandchildren 178 00:07:46,070 --> 00:07:42,430 her sorry yes you know the family is all 179 00:07:48,870 --> 00:07:46,080 extremely nice to me extremely welcoming 180 00:07:52,740 --> 00:07:48,880 we just had lunch with Kylie and little 181 00:07:57,840 --> 00:07:52,750 stormy yesterday and you know I couldn't 182 00:07:59,760 --> 00:07:57,850 I feel very welcomed that you connected 183 00:08:04,830 --> 00:07:59,770 with Caitlyn because you couldn't find a 184 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:04,840 job couldn't find a job okay well I was 185 00:08:09,900 --> 00:08:06,610 the president of my class for three 186 00:08:13,670 --> 00:08:09,910 years I interviewed at every bank on 187 00:08:17,670 --> 00:08:13,680 Wall Street Goldman Sachs Merrill Lynch 188 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:17,680 Credit Suisse lists JP Morgan Chase the 189 00:08:25,260 --> 00:08:20,530 list goes on I could have found a job my 190 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:25,270 job now is so much more fun and I love 191 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:27,130 that I'm at the intersection of 192 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:30,210 entertainment business and philanthropy 193 00:08:35,100 --> 00:08:32,290 yeah let's talk about what you're doing 194 00:08:37,650 --> 00:08:35,110 as her manager yeah what what are you 195 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:37,660 hoping to achieve by being her manager 196 00:08:43,560 --> 00:08:42,010 I've achieved a lot for her basically 197 00:08:44,370 --> 00:08:43,570 our business is broken down in a few 198 00:08:48,210 --> 00:08:44,380 different segments 199 00:08:50,340 --> 00:08:48,220 we have public speaking we have media 200 00:08:53,430 --> 00:08:50,350 appearances and then we have endorsement 201 00:08:56,430 --> 00:08:53,440 deals and between me 202 00:08:58,860 --> 00:08:56,440 our legal team and our public relations 203 00:09:02,220 --> 00:08:58,870 team we're able to get deals done really 204 00:09:05,430 --> 00:09:02,230 nicely between that team and myself 205 00:09:08,250 --> 00:09:05,440 managing our team and you know I think 206 00:09:10,500 --> 00:09:08,260 it's been fabulous so there's the 207 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:10,510 business side of managing her and then 208 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:13,330 there's the advocacy side major right so 209 00:09:18,330 --> 00:09:15,250 on the advocacy side to dress that as 210 00:09:20,790 --> 00:09:18,340 her manager I like to merge the two I 211 00:09:23,190 --> 00:09:20,800 think everything Katelyn does has to 212 00:09:25,590 --> 00:09:23,200 have a philanthropic twist that 213 00:09:27,210 --> 00:09:25,600 philanthropic means for instance the Mac 214 00:09:31,350 --> 00:09:27,220 deal that she did with mac cosmetics 215 00:09:33,060 --> 00:09:31,360 Estee Lauder you know there was the 216 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:33,070 business side in you're getting paid to 217 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:36,010 license your name but there is the 218 00:09:42,660 --> 00:09:38,170 philanthropic side where a percentage of 219 00:09:45,390 --> 00:09:42,670 all sales goes to the transgender max 220 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:45,400 transgender initiative in the AIDS Fund 221 00:09:48,780 --> 00:09:47,290 so things like that when you get an 222 00:09:50,970 --> 00:09:48,790 endorsement deal a percentage of 223 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:50,980 proceeds or a percentage of profits or 224 00:09:56,850 --> 00:09:54,010 an annual guarantee of some kind goes to 225 00:09:58,980 --> 00:09:56,860 charity I love blending those two things 226 00:10:01,410 --> 00:09:58,990 together and I think because we are in 227 00:10:03,810 --> 00:10:01,420 the privileged position of the trans 228 00:10:05,940 --> 00:10:03,820 community that's our obligation that's 229 00:10:09,270 --> 00:10:05,950 my obligation as her business manager 230 00:10:12,540 --> 00:10:09,280 that's her obligation or it's not her 231 00:10:14,190 --> 00:10:12,550 obligation to do any philanthropy but 232 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:14,200 we're blessed to be in positions that 233 00:10:18,660 --> 00:10:17,170 were in where we can do that yeah I mean 234 00:10:20,970 --> 00:10:18,670 she is arguably the most famous 235 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:20,980 transgendered person yeah in the world 236 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:22,890 definitely and with that comes 237 00:10:26,250 --> 00:10:24,130 obligations 238 00:10:29,820 --> 00:10:26,260 I would imagine she feels and you feel 239 00:10:31,590 --> 00:10:29,830 she definitely feels a tremendous sense 240 00:10:34,770 --> 00:10:31,600 of obligation to helping the trans 241 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:34,780 community because as you know the 242 00:10:42,260 --> 00:10:38,890 community is so marginalized you know as 243 00:10:44,730 --> 00:10:42,270 the executive director of the foundation 244 00:10:47,460 --> 00:10:44,740 where I spend most of my time is raising 245 00:10:49,770 --> 00:10:47,470 money but on the flip side of that what 246 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:49,780 do we do when we have you know a ton of 247 00:10:54,630 --> 00:10:51,850 money raised we have to give it away and 248 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:54,640 I get to vet organizations to give it 249 00:10:57,810 --> 00:10:56,410 away to and in the process of vetting 250 00:10:59,010 --> 00:10:57,820 those organizations 251 00:11:01,980 --> 00:10:59,020 you know I'm looking over financial 252 00:11:03,900 --> 00:11:01,990 statements I'm looking over 990s you 253 00:11:06,750 --> 00:11:03,910 know you look over all these forms and 254 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:06,760 balance sheets and income statements and 255 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:08,890 when you're looking through what these 256 00:11:13,680 --> 00:11:11,290 extremely marginalised organizations are 257 00:11:17,250 --> 00:11:13,690 running their operations on in their 258 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:17,260 making such a difference in doing so you 259 00:11:24,210 --> 00:11:21,130 really realize wow we have a tremendous 260 00:11:27,090 --> 00:11:24,220 responsibility to not only identify 261 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:27,100 these organizations but help them most 262 00:11:31,350 --> 00:11:28,930 trans organizations that we end up 263 00:11:35,550 --> 00:11:31,360 supporting have operating budgets under 264 00:11:37,530 --> 00:11:35,560 $10,000 a year so you know our donations 265 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:37,540 are often the largest donations that 266 00:11:42,900 --> 00:11:39,970 they've ever received because they are 267 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:42,910 the Forgotten of the LGB MT so it must 268 00:11:47,910 --> 00:11:44,770 be frustrating for you though to have 269 00:11:50,910 --> 00:11:47,920 the media so focused on the nature of 270 00:11:52,410 --> 00:11:50,920 the relationship between you two - and 271 00:11:55,590 --> 00:11:52,420 it's pushing aside the other things you 272 00:11:59,760 --> 00:11:55,600 guys want to it is that is a frustration 273 00:12:02,010 --> 00:11:59,770 to me but I do realize like we said 274 00:12:04,470 --> 00:12:02,020 earlier the media loves a 275 00:12:06,900 --> 00:12:04,480 sensationalized story they love oh the 276 00:12:08,580 --> 00:12:06,910 new car - the new Kardashian wannabe you 277 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:08,590 know I mean come on 278 00:12:14,580 --> 00:12:11,410 no way what engage they say engagements 279 00:12:17,340 --> 00:12:14,590 no engagement if I was engaged I would 280 00:12:19,470 --> 00:12:17,350 announce that I was engaged if Kaitlyn 281 00:12:20,850 --> 00:12:19,480 you know and I were to be engaged we 282 00:12:23,490 --> 00:12:20,860 would announce that we're not ashamed of 283 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:23,500 our relationship at all but would you 284 00:12:29,510 --> 00:12:26,290 like to have some privacy and that's 285 00:12:32,610 --> 00:12:29,520 something you know that we would decide 286 00:12:33,900 --> 00:12:32,620 when the time was right to announce so 287 00:12:35,730 --> 00:12:33,910 we've talked about what you're trying to 288 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:35,740 achieve for for Kaitlyn what about for 289 00:12:40,890 --> 00:12:37,930 yourself you you're now in this position 290 00:12:42,300 --> 00:12:40,900 of notoriety and being able to assist 291 00:12:43,560 --> 00:12:42,310 Kaitlyn what she's doing what do you 292 00:12:47,220 --> 00:12:43,570 hope to achieve for yourself ultimately 293 00:12:49,140 --> 00:12:47,230 well I think and what we are doing I'm 294 00:12:51,510 --> 00:12:49,150 achieving a lot for myself I don't know 295 00:12:53,370 --> 00:12:51,520 a lot of 22 year olds that have done you 296 00:12:55,230 --> 00:12:53,380 know million-dollar endorsement deals do 297 00:12:57,450 --> 00:12:55,240 you I don't know a lot of 22 year olds 298 00:12:59,070 --> 00:12:57,460 that have found investors for companies 299 00:13:02,040 --> 00:12:59,080 and that have ultimately started 300 00:13:04,560 --> 00:13:02,050 companies so I feel you know I'm just 301 00:13:07,260 --> 00:13:04,570 adding a lot of experiences that are 302 00:13:08,940 --> 00:13:07,270 invaluable but with those experiences 303 00:13:12,210 --> 00:13:08,950 also being in the public eye 304 00:13:15,630 --> 00:13:12,220 kind of takes a toll on you if you 305 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:15,640 and I've learned you know as I as we've 306 00:13:22,350 --> 00:13:18,610 been together how to handle that in 307 00:13:23,670 --> 00:13:22,360 healthier ways and you know let haters 308 00:13:25,380 --> 00:13:23,680 hey you're not going to change the 309 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:25,390 haters minds and you just keep doing 310 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:27,130 what you know is right in the end the 311 00:13:30,660 --> 00:13:28,810 end you'll prevail so do you have a 312 00:13:32,340 --> 00:13:30,670 vision for yourself career-wise down the 313 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:32,350 road for instance I've read you know at 314 00:13:34,260 --> 00:13:33,490 one point you wanted to be a corporate 315 00:13:36,630 --> 00:13:34,270 finance lawyer 316 00:13:37,860 --> 00:13:36,640 another thing indicated that you might 317 00:13:39,180 --> 00:13:37,870 be in certain politics down the road 318 00:13:41,790 --> 00:13:39,190 what do you envision for yourself down 319 00:13:44,940 --> 00:13:41,800 the road politics no when I was younger 320 00:13:46,980 --> 00:13:44,950 I did think a lot about politics and 321 00:13:50,730 --> 00:13:46,990 when I say younger I mean high school 322 00:13:52,860 --> 00:13:50,740 days I in high school I was the state 323 00:13:54,750 --> 00:13:52,870 debate champion for two years in a row I 324 00:13:58,290 --> 00:13:54,760 was nationally ranked for three years in 325 00:14:00,060 --> 00:13:58,300 a row my high school experience was very 326 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:00,070 different than most people's high school 327 00:14:04,560 --> 00:14:01,930 experience I was on the road every 328 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:04,570 weekend literally every weekend to the 329 00:14:08,010 --> 00:14:06,250 East Coast at a debate tournament and 330 00:14:09,570 --> 00:14:08,020 did extraordinarily well in debate so I 331 00:14:11,310 --> 00:14:09,580 kind of thought maybe I want to go down 332 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:11,320 the law school political road and then I 333 00:14:14,700 --> 00:14:13,090 got to college and I said wait I love 334 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:14,710 business I want to go on Wall Street and 335 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:17,170 then I met Caitlyn and I realized I can 336 00:14:23,340 --> 00:14:20,530 do business do big deals be part be a 337 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:23,350 part of big projects and then also in 338 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:26,050 the entertainment world I love it 339 00:14:33,390 --> 00:14:29,290 you know I see my future as a 340 00:14:37,070 --> 00:14:33,400 businesswoman as a philanthropist as 341 00:14:40,770 --> 00:14:37,080 someone that gets [\h__\h] done 342 00:14:42,950 --> 00:14:40,780 well said Sophia thank you so much thank 343 00:14:44,350 --> 00:14:42,960 you so much so nice to meet you 344 00:14:45,180 --> 00:14:44,360 [Music]